Episode Six – People Will Leave You For Good And Bad Reasons

Welcome to Episode Six of The Realities of Leadership: People Will Leave You For Good And Bad Reasons.

Discussion guide from The Realities of Leadership, Episode Six:

1. The modern business leader needs to be VERY focused on talent, and many are not. In fact, the leader needs discipline, philosophy, and practices around their talent approach.

2. HR plays an important role in talent yes, but the leader (CEO, GM) now have to play a much more engaged role with talent management.

3. “Hire for cultural fit, and train for technical skills.”

4. Leaders ALWAYS have to be looking for talent, both formally and informally.

5. It’s more than a matter of putting out a job description. You need to search for personality, skills, and behaviors as well.

6. Today’s reality for all leaders is that they have to take risks with talent, and make bold moves.

7. People will leave your organization for bad reasons:
a. Leaders push them into roles they are not comfortable in.
b. Leaders do not advocate on the behalf of their talent, putting them into positions where they can thrive.
c. Leaders are not developing the talent for success in the future.

8. How will talent leave you? Emotionally (become disengaged in the office)? Or physically?

9. Steps to become a better advocate for your talent:
a. Get to know them.
b. Learn their career aspirations.
c. Learn where their gaps are.
d. Stretch them.
e. Give them visibility to showcase emerging skills.

10. But, a very powerful way to advocate for talent is sometimes to encourage them to pursue an opportunity/challenge outside of the organization…one that you just cannot provide.

11. Think of the benefits this brings to the organization: trust, safe environment, loyalty, talent knows you have their best interests at heart, and very likely, the talent will be in a position to return to the organization down the road.

12. “You want to encourage ambition, and let people develop as fully as they can.”

13. If an employee leaves you emotionally, meaning they have mentally checked out and no longer really care about their work or the organization, how do you turn that around?

14. Talent will leave an organization if they sense leadership isn’t doing their job. And if talent suggests they are leaving simply for a larger paycheck, that is generally a sign that something else is wrong.

15. The final reality to understand here is that in the modern business world, talent moves around. People will leave your organization. Just be certain they leave for good reasons. And recognize that if they are leaving for bad reasons, those are opportunities you can fix.

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About our host, Erica Peitler:

Erica is a Leadership Performance Coach who courageously partners with individuals, teams and organizations who want to realize their visions of success by transforming their leadership potential into visible, on the ground, breakthrough leadership performance!

With an engaging, provocative and straight forward approach, Erica inspires leaders to reach beyond their comfort level as they pursue becoming the performance based leaders they aspire to be in both their professional and personal life.

As a keynote speaker and author, Erica educates, entertains and enlightens audiences on leadership, transformational change and professional/personal growth initiatives.


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Series co-host Todd Schnick is the Editor-In-Chief of intrepid.MEDIA and a media and content strategist. A former marketing strategist, lobbyist, and national political operative, Todd now lives and works in the Chicago Loop with his family. He is a writer, foodie, bibliophile, distance runner, and nearly full-time dog mom.



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Founder and Editor-In-Chief of intrepid.MEDIA, Todd Schnick is a media + business strategist and talk show host + producer. He is a former marketing strategist, national political operative, and lobbyist. Todd has published five books, writes a business + lifestyle column, is a distance runner, and lives in Chicago with his wife Stephanie + family.
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Founder and Editor-In-Chief of intrepid.MEDIA, Todd Schnick is a media + business strategist and talk show host + producer. He is a former marketing strategist, national political operative, and lobbyist. Todd has published five books, writes a business + lifestyle column, is a distance runner, and lives in Chicago with his wife Stephanie + family.

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